Smudge on the mirrow

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Smudge on the mirrow

Postby Shirley Ann on Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:36 pm

I was just taking a few photo for a bit of fun with the shapes of the clouds but much to my horror as seen on the photo are two smudges. Searching if it was the lens I found the mark is on the top mirror in the camera itself. Has anyone got any idea what to use, until I sort it all photo taking is at a stand.
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The two marks are right in the middle of the cloud. I will have to buy something to clean it but what? Thanks very much.
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Re: Smudge on the mirrow

Postby Admin-John on Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:08 pm

Hi Shirley, You could attempt this yourself with some pec-pads, a ccd spatular and a drop of eclipse fluid and one gentle sweep. But be careful, most dSLR's now have the silver material on the reflective side of the mirror (as opposed to the back - behind the glass),so its easily scratched. You could always drop it into a reputable sony dealer and get it cleaned at their risk!
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Re: Smudge on the mirrow

Postby Barry Fisher on Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:20 pm

Hi Shirley Ann. If the smudges are present on your images then they are unlikely to be due to any marks that may be present on your mirror. The smudges are more likely to be due to dust etc on your sensor itself, which would then require careful cleaning by someone who knows what they are doing or you could make matters worse. You can do it yourself and there are plenty of tutorials etc on the web but you will need a specialist cleaning kit.

Any marks that are present on your mirror should not appear on any of your images; as at the time of the exposure, the mirror moves out of the way to allow the light to pass through to your sensor. I certainly would be very careful about touching the mirror. :D
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Re: Smudge on the mirrow

Postby Shirley Ann on Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:38 pm

Thanks for that, tomorrow I'll have a better look at the camera mirror and the lens that I used.
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Re: Smudge on the mirrow

Postby Barry Fisher on Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:52 am

Hi Shirley Ann, the problem will almost certainly NOT be connected with the lens. Any marks on the lens would also not have any effect on the image, as they would not be brought into focus on the sensor. They would simply reduce the effective aperture of the lens and hence the amount of light passing through to the sensor. Your camera instruction book should tell you how to raise the mirror to clean/examine the sensor. If you do this you should be able to see any large dust or smears on the sensor.

Alternatively, fit a wide-ish angle lens on your camera, set ISO to 100, then using a long exposure time and a small aperture say, f16 or f22 take a shot of a white ceiling whilst moving the camera around throughout the exposure. Then examine the shot on the camera screen by scrolling around it at a high zoom level. If your sensor is clean you should just have a blank white/greyish image with nothing in focus. If there is any dust on the sensor it should show up as darkish spots or marks at a high zoom level.

I think that it is inevitable that all sensors are going to need cleaning from time to time either from dust entering the camera during lens changing or even lubricant from the shutter mechanism getting onto the sensor. Therefore I have invested in an illuminated loupe, an Artic butterfly brush, a Lenspen Sensorclean pack, as well as wet cleaning equipment, although I have not yet needed to use the latter two to date. Sometimes simply using, say, a Giottos blower can be enough to dislodge any dust without needing any further attention.

I hope this is of some help. Please feel free to PM me if you need any more explanation :D
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Re: Smudge on the mirrow

Postby Shirley Ann on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:09 pm

Hi Barry,
Thanks for all that advice. I bought a Giottos blower and some pedipads off the interent and cleaned and use the blower and it seems that one speck of dust is replaced by another, so the next plan is to get something else I have seen what you have but I may in the end have to use a touch of something damp. I thought after a day puzzleing over it to send it to Sony but not for £100. Living here everything like for a camera has to arrive by post so I'll have to wait a few more days again.
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Re: Smudge on the mirrow

Postby Barry Fisher on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:58 pm

Hi Shirley,
When you used the Giottos blower to dislodge the dust did you hold the camera with the lens opening facing down so that the dust could fall out? Only on one occasion did I have a mark that could not be removed with the blower or the static attraction of the Artic butterfly brush and this came off with a dry "foam tipped" intuos sensor cleaning "probe", one of three that I was given as a sample at Focus on Imaging. I have not had to resort to wet cleaning yet. Here are three links to sites that might help if you have not seen them before.

http://www.sensorcleaning.com/main.php
http://www.visibledust.com/Wet%20Cleaning%20Manual.pdf
http://www.cameraclean.co.uk/Sensor_Cle ... uction.php

If you are anywhere near to Cambrian Cameras in Colwyn Bay, I'm sure that they would be able to clean your sensor for very much less than £100.00 charged by Sony. I always found them to be extremely helpful when we had our static caravan at Llandulas. :D
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